AngiePen ([info]angiepen) wrote,
@ 2009-01-07 10:48:00
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Fic: A Lost Boy, Chapter 24
Title: A Lost Boy
Author: AngiePen
Pairing: Liam Neeson/Orlando Bloom, minor Liam/Johnny Depp, plus a few other pair-ups among the supporting characters.
Rating: NC-17 overall
Summary: Slave Orlando's been taken and the kidnappers aren't interested in ransom. And of course Master Liam's thundering rage is only at the personal insult, that someone would disrespect him by daring to touch his property.
Disclaimer: I don't own anyone you recognize. I know nothing about their social lives or sexual activities, more's the pity. This is fiction, period. It is done as a labor of love and I make no money from it.
Notes: 1) Set in [info]poisontaster's Kept Boy universe -- FAQ here. See Chapter 1 for more notes.

Previous Chapters: One, Two, Three, Four, Five, Six, Seven, Eight, Nine, Ten, Eleven, Twelve, Thirteen, Fourteen, Fifteen, Sixteen, Seventeen, Eighteen, Nineteen, Twenty, Twenty-One, Twenty-Two, Twenty-Three



"There's Father Serra!" Jamie knelt up on the seat, careful not to kick his daddy, and plastered his face against the car window as it rounded a curve of the highway and passed the kneeling statue, one long arm and pointing finger extended. The sun was almost down and it was too dark to really see anything clearly, but Jamie had seen it a bunch of times before and knew what it looked like anyway. It was cool, the huge statue up in the hills, by the side of the freeway in the middle of nowhere. Just hills, trees, grass, trees, bushes, trees, then bam! Statue! Then more trees and stuff.

"Tell us again about the time you gave him a helmet and a football!" he asked, bouncing with eagerness. He remembered that too, the story about how when his daddy was at Stanford, they'd made a huge football helmet in red and white, 'cause those were Stanford's colors, and an even huger football, and put the helmet on the statue's head and put the football under the statue's finger, like it was holding the ball for some giant to kick. He liked it when Daddy told it, though.

His father gave him a look and said, "Say 'please.'"

Paula, on Daddy's other side, just rolled her eyes at him and went back to her book. Jamie ignored her; she was always trying to pretend she was so much smarter and cooler than he was, but she was just a brat.

"Please?" Jamie bounced a few more times, but slid back down to the seat, twisted around to watch his daddy. He seemed upset about something and Jamie didn't know what it was. He hadn't been all that interested in what he and Paula had been doing in school, or what Jamie wanted to get Mommy for Christmas, or anything. He'd pretended to listen but it wasn't the same. Jamie was eight -- he wasn't a stupid little kid anymore. He could tell when people were pretending around him.

He'd tried to think of all the stuff he'd done since last time he'd seen his daddy. There'd been all that blue paint he'd spilled on Mrs. Taylor's classroom floor. She'd been pretty mad, but it'd been an accident and the slaves had been able to clean it all up so you couldn't even tell. And he'd kicked over Maddy's juice at lunch a couple of weeks ago, but she'd been saying nasty things about a picture Jamie'd drawn so she deserved it. Although he wasn't sure if his daddy would agree. Mr. Kitchener hadn't, even though Jamie had explained. Maybe that was what Daddy was mad about?

Except he didn't seem mad. Not really. More sad. Maybe he was sad because Jamie'd been bad? Except he hadn't been that bad.

Maybe telling about the time they'd made the statue a football player would cheer him up. He'd always had fun when he told it before.

Daddy smiled at him and gave him a hug with one arm, and even if he didn't seem as happy as he usually was when it was the first day of their vacation together, Jamie was feeling a little better.

Paula was sighing loudly at both of them and Jamie was saying, "Pleasepleaseplease!" some more when his daddy's phone went off, in the bzz-bzz, bzz-bzz code that meant Johnny had sent him something he had to look at right away. He held up one hand to Jamie and pulled out the phone to check his e-mail.

Jamie sighed and looked out the window again. Business sucked. His mom and daddy both spent too much time doing boring stuff, even when it was supposed to be vacation.

But then Daddy straightened up like someone had poked him hard, and said a really bad cuss word. (Which was one of the best parts about growing up, in Jamie's opinion -- being able to cuss if you wanted without getting smacked or yelled at for it.)

Daddy punched keys really fast for a while, then sent his mail, then did it again and sent another mail, then another one. By the time he was done it was too dark to see anything outside except lit-up signs and stuff and they were close to home.

He put away his phone and looked at Jamie, then at Paula, then said, "I have something to tell you both before we get home." He paused a moment and Jamie wondered what it could be, because it sounded pretty bad. Maybe whatever Daddy'd been upset about?

"About a month and a half ago, someone stole Orlando. I've been trying very hard to find him, and I hired someone to help me, but we haven't been able to find him yet. I'm going to get him back, though."

Jamie was still trying to figure out how you could steal a someone. Usually it was things that got stolen. Slaves were sort of like things, because they belonged to people, but they weren't really. But then Paula gave another loud sigh and said, "Are you still fussing about that? Mommy told me ages ago. I don't know why you haven't just gotten over it and bought another one."

Daddy's head jerked around to look at her and Jamie shrank back as far as he could get into the corner of the seat. Even the back of Daddy's head was glaring. He was sure Paula was going to get yelled at good and maybe smacked, but Daddy just said, very quietly, "It's not a good idea to repeat what your mother says when you don't understand what's going on."

And he was right, because thinking about it, Paula had sounded exactly like Mom when she said that. She was just copying Mom, trying to make them think she was all grown up again.

Jamie couldn't see Paula from where he was, just her legs shifting. She whined, "He's just a slave! He's nice and all but you're not supposed to have slaves forever! Not body-slaves, anyway! You get one and you play with him for a while and then you sell him and get a new one. You're supposed to!" By the end she was almost yelling and Jamie ducked down again, afraid Paula was going to get a spanking right there in the car.

Instead, Daddy just looked at her for a little while, then said, "I'm sorry, baby," and pulled her into his lap. She started crying and he rocked her and rubbed her back all the rest of the way home.

When Javier pulled up the long driveway and parked the car, Jamie looked at the big house and it really hit him that Orlando wasn't there, that Orlando wouldn't come out to get their suitcases, wouldn't listen to what they'd been doing and what they wanted for Christmas, wouldn't be there to play with them.

Johnny and Samantha came out to get baggage and bundle them all into the house, with Daddy still carrying Paula. Jamie felt kind of like crying himself, but he didn't because he was a boy and boys don't cry, at least not out in front of everybody.

Samantha took Jamie's jacket and told him they were having fried chicken for dinner, and that there was mint-chocolate ice cream for dessert, then went away. Johnny'd gone to take their suitcases to their rooms, and Daddy had taken Paula upstairs. The sounds of the house were familiar -- footsteps and quiet voices. If he walked up the hall he'd hear kitchen sounds, making-dinner sounds.

This time, the just-gotten-home-from-school time, was when Orlando would come and listen to what he'd been doing for all the months since he'd been home, and play with him or find something fun for them to do. Jamie didn't know what to do, though, by himself. Johnny would be unpacking -- and that was usually Orlando's job too, something he'd do while listening to Jamie -- and putting things away in his room and he didn't feel like going up there yet.

He wandered into the big living room. The Christmas tree was already up. It was huge -- twice as tall as his daddy even -- and had a million ornaments and lights and stuff on it. It already had some presents under it, too.

Jamie went over and looked at the presents. He didn't touch anything, but he read the name tags. There were some things for Daddy in different kinds of wrapping paper, with names Jamie didn't know. Probably people he worked with. A few presents from neighbors, including a couple of presents each for him and Paula. They were just box-shaped, though, and he couldn't tell what they were. He knew better than to pick one up, to shake it or even see what it weighed.

He ran out of presents to look at and he knew all the ornaments. Most of them were just colored balls but there were some like little toys or dolls -- birds and bells and snowmen and angels and tiny stockings and drums and horns and stars and snowflakes and a bunch of other ones they'd had all his life.

Boring. Jamie didn't know what he wanted to do. He felt like running or yelling or crying but he couldn't do any of those things, so he went over to the couch and curled up in one corner. He stared at the tree but didn't really see it.

He didn't even notice when his daddy came into the room and sat down next to him.

"She'll be all right," he said. "She'll probably skip dinner, have a good sleep tonight, and be fine in the morning."

"Whatever," Jamie said. "It's not like she really cares about Orlando. She just didn't want to get yelled at so she started crying."

He felt his daddy shift next to him and Jamie looked up, suddenly worried that maybe he'd gone too far, grumped a little too much. But Daddy didn't look mad at him, just sad and tired.

"It's not Orlando," he said. "You're right, she doesn't know him as well as you do and she doesn't miss him as much. But do you remember Shane?"

Of course he did. "That was Mom's second-to-last old body-slave. I liked him. He was pretty cool."

"He was a nice boy," his daddy agreed. "Paula knew him a lot better than you did, though. She lived with your mother for most of last summer, remember? Shane was there and Paula liked him a lot."

"Liked him, liked him?" Jamie asked, ready to jeer. Because, yuck.

"No, not like that." His daddy poked him in the ribs. It tickled, but only for a second. "But he was a good friend. They talked a lot, and played together, and he took her places when your mother was busy -- the zoo and museums and shopping. They were good friends, best friends maybe. And then he left."

"Then Mom sold him," Jamie said. It wasn't correcting, not quite. "So she should know how you feel! How we feel, because Orlando's gone! Why was she so snotty about it, then, in the car?"

Daddy sighed and pushed a hand through his hair. He always did that when he was trying to figure out something hard. He finally said, "You know your mother and I don't always think the same way about slaves."

"About body-slaves," Jamie said, nodding. He was pretty sure it was just body-slaves. They treated the others the same.

"Right, about body-slaves. I've had Orlando since he was born, you know that. Johnny was my body-slave before, then when he was old enough it was Orlando. He's done that job for a long time."

"Mom thinks too long?" Jamie was careful about that. His parents were mostly careful about not letting him and Paula be disrespectful of them, although Mom didn't mind sometimes if you said something she'd said herself, like Paula had in the car. He didn't think saying that Mom thought Daddy'd had Orlando for too long was disrespectful. It was true, and he couldn't think of a nicer way to say it.

"Yes, she thinks I've had him too long. But that's not what I meant. Your mother doesn't keep her own body-slaves for very long. She thinks they're just like other slaves, that you shouldn't really get attached to them the way you would with a person. She's not really wrong -- a lot of people agree with her. And it makes things hard later on, if you become attached."

Jamie frowned and nodded, even though he wasn't really sure what his daddy was trying to say. It made sense that it'd be hard if you liked a body-slave a lot and then he got sold. But it'd have to be someone else's body-slave, because no one could make you sell your own slave, unless you lost all your money or something.

"Think about Paula," Daddy said. "She liked Shane very much. He was her best friend all summer. And then he was sold and he left and she'll never see him again. She was very sad, but your mother scolded her and told her that she shouldn't have let herself get attached to him, and that it was a good lesson. So Paula tried very hard to forget about Shane, and not let herself be sad anymore."

"So... it didn't work?" Jamie was still kind of confused. He could see how it would've sucked for Paula, though. She'd never mentioned it, but he remembered she'd been kind of quiet and touchy when they'd gone back to school that year.

"It... sort of worked." Daddy held up one hand and tilted it back and forth. "She got good at pretending she didn't care. She worked hard at it, and probably cried sometimes by herself, but she got good at pretending it didn't hurt anymore, maybe even pretending she'd never really liked him that much. Then she was in the car tonight and heard about how I'd lost my slave, someone I'd gotten attached to, and that I was going to get him back, that I was searching and hiring people to get him back."

"That's not fair," Jamie said immediately. He might not always understand things grown-ups thought were important, but he knew when something wasn't fair. All kids did.

"No, it's not. I get to go hunt for my slave and get him back, but she doesn't get to hunt for Shane. She isn't even allowed to admit she misses him. It's not fair and she got mad, and then she got sad about it again, because she couldn't pretend anymore that she didn't care he was gone."

"But she still doesn't care about Orlando."

"No, she probably doesn't. She doesn't know him like we do."

"So... it's all right to miss him?"

His daddy laughed, but it wasn't a happy laugh. He pulled Jamie over for a hug. Jamie hugged him back, then climbed into his lap. He was too big to get in his daddy's lap, but there wasn't anyone around to see. He felt the tears he'd wanted to cry earlier coming back.

"I do miss him. He's supposed to be here. What happened?"

"I don't know, kiddo. Someone stole him. I'm trying my best to get him back, and I think I have a big clue now."

Jamie sniffled and said, "What?" without taking his head off his daddy's chest.

"I got an e-mail from someone who says he's seen Orlando. Another slave who was stolen too. He wants me to help him, if he tells me about where he saw Orlando and what happened to them."

"Help him what?"

"I don't know, he didn't say. I wrote back to him saying I wanted to talk. I hope he'll tell me what he wants."

"You'll do it, right?"

"Of course. If I can."

That didn't sound very good to Jamie. That sounded like what adults said when they didn't think they could but wanted to keep you from whining about it for a while. "You have to," he said. "You can give him whatever he wants, right?"

"I don't know what he wants, Jamie. I'm sorry. I want Orlando back more than you do, and I want to promise I'll move the whole world to do it. But it's been a long time. I don't even know how long ago this other slave saw him. I'm not going to lie to you and promise it'll be all right. You're a big boy now and you understand that sometimes we can't have what we want, no matter how much we want it. If this other slave wants something I can give, something I can get, something I can help him with without breaking the law, then I'll do it. But he might want something I just can't do. We have to wait and see what he says."

Waiting sucked. Jamie hated waiting, and hated not knowing if there was even anything to wait for. It was worse than waiting for Christmas, because at least you knew Christmas was going to come, even if it took a long time.

He remembered Orlando riding him piggy-back, and helping him with his reading, and playing Batman and Robin with him, and taking him galloping on a horse back when he'd been too little to do it by himself. The tears fell. Jamie kept his face buried in his daddy's shirt and hoped no one would see him crying.


Note: If you want to see what the statue of Father Serra looks like, here's a photo. :)

Next Chapter: Chapter Twenty-Five



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[info]dramagirl007
2009-01-07 07:48 pm UTC (link)
I'm glad Liam's son misses Orlando too. Orlando needs to be found quick. I feel sorry for Paula though, she was attached to a slave of her mom's and her mom sold him. I really hate that woman. Keep up the good work and please update ASAP. :)

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[info]angiepen
2009-01-08 04:08 am UTC (link)
Jamie definitely misses Orlando; he's known him all his life, as a friend and a playmate and a babysitter and a fixture of his father's household. Losing him now is like a death, with the same level of trauma.

Paula's definitely been messed over, yeah. [nod] Natasha thought she was doing the right thing, though, teaching her child to cope with the realities of a slave society. :/

Thanks for commenting!

Angie

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[info]weepingnaiad
2009-01-07 07:49 pm UTC (link)
Oh now you've done it! *sobs* I have managed to make it through all the horrible stuff without actually sobbing out loud, but not this... not now! Poor Jamie! I totally agree with him... waiting for something that may not come is far worse!

I'm glad he's going to listen to Ben's demands. I just hope they find Orlando before he's sold by Commerce, although I doubt that will help much in the fight with that big, faceless bureaucracy. *sigh*

*hugs*
WN

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[info]angiepen
2009-01-08 04:14 am UTC (link)
Jamie feels like he's lost a best friend, and he knew his a lot longer than Paula knew hers, so if anyone should get to cry about it it's him. [grin/pets Jamie]

Liam's definitely going to listen. And if what Ben wants is even vaguely within his power, he'll give it.

Thanks! :D

Angie

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[info]christangel13
2009-01-07 08:10 pm UTC (link)
AWWWW, Jamie is just too cute.; i adore him. He seems to be a lot like his father, but Paula has more from her mother, maybe it is only her bad influence.
I hope Neeson and Jamie can get Orlando back, they do miss him a lot.
Great chapter!

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[info]angiepen
2009-01-08 04:20 am UTC (link)
The kids reflect the parent who's primarily raising them, yes. [nod] They go to boarding school but it's not like it's across the country; Natasha goes to have lunch with one of the kids once a week unless she's travelling, alternating between them to get some regular one-on-one time with each. And sometimes she visits on weekends. Liam doesn't get up quite as often, but he sees the kids a couple of times a month. Summer vacation is mostly with the custodial parent, so when the kids get the most full-immersion with a parental figure, it's Paula with Natasha and Jamie with Liam. It definitely shows in the kids' outlooks and personalities.

And thanks, Liam and Jamie hope so too! [crossed fingers]

Angie

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[info]twicet
2009-01-07 08:20 pm UTC (link)
I enjoy when you write background about the characters. It helps in creating a fuller picture of this universe. If Orlando is already sold by the time Liam finds him, who will legally have ownership? Perhaps Liam will find him before the sale, then he can buy him. Sorry I am thinking with my fingers moving *g*
I did enjoy the update.

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[info]angiepen
2009-01-08 04:29 am UTC (link)
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed the family stuff. :)

If Orlando is already sold by the time Liam finds him, who will legally have ownership?

Well, that depends. On the one hand, receiving stolen property is a crime in and of itself, although if everyone dealt in good faith it's unlikely that Orlando's new owner would be prosecuted. Or Commerce for that matter. [cough] So far as I know, if you buy a car from someone and it turns out to have been stolen, if the cops catch up with the car they just take it. I assume you're free to file a civil suit against the person who wrongfully sold it to you, but the state doesn't owe you any compensation.

In this case, though, everything hinges on whether Liam can persuade Commerce as an entity to admit they made a mistake..... :(

Thanks!

Angie

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[info]thetammyjo
2009-01-07 08:21 pm UTC (link)
I hate saying negative things but I know as a writer I want honest feedback.

This thing with the children and family seemed very out of place to me. I thought we'd find out what happened with the email or maybe follow Orlando more.

Have we even met these children before now?

This seems very distracting to me.

Focusing on one or two characters is generally a much stronger way to write and you've changed viewpoints a lot all ready in this story. Do we really need the Lord's children views?

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[info]angiepen
2009-01-08 04:58 am UTC (link)
No prob, I love talking about writing. :)

Usually when I'm writing a story, I stick to one POV, or if it's something romance-ish I sometimes alternate between the points of view of the two main characters, so I get where you're coming from there. [nod]

In this case, though, as you said, I already have set the precedent of going into other points of view as needed. The very first scene was (although spare and bare-bones) from the POV of some nameless, faceless Commerce drone, so that was a heads-up to the reader that this wasn't going to be a single-POV story. Or I thought it was. [grin]

Jamie and Paula were born in "Turf Battles," and we saw Jamie before in a "Five Years Ago" scene a dozen or fifteen chapters ago, something like that. He's been away at school, but since I did introduce him earlier and he does exist, I needed to show him being around at some point; otherwise he'd just be a prop, used once and then tossed into the attic, which is sloppy writing. And showing how Orlando's disappearance affects him shows that it's not just Liam and Orlando's relatives who are missing him.

Also, contrasting the reactions of Jamie and Paula shows that the difference between the attitude and world view of Natasha (who represents "normal" for her (and Liam's) class in this society) and that of Liam, who wants very much to be "normal" in this way, and actually agrees with Natasha in most things (and wants to agree with her in cases where he doesn't). The way each has transmitted their attitudes to their children shows where their true feelings and values are. Natasha is all, "Look, this is the world. It sucks, so you have to learn to protect yourself, or it'll break you." Liam knows that, and even believes it, intellectually. It is normal, it's what his social group believes. But because of how he (very unwillingly, but one can't help these things) feels about Orlando, his true outlook has changed, and the fact that he's let Jamie get as close to Orlando as he has, and that he's validating Jamie's feelings of pain and loss, shows what he really believes himself, even if he wouldn't have admitted it out loud to anyone but his eight-year-old son. With everyone else, it's been all about the personal insult done to him, the disrespect. The fact that anyone who knows him well can see through this is irrelevant. :) But with Jamie, he's willing to agree that it's okay to miss Orlando and want him back for himself. (Although even with Jamie, he didn't quite say it out loud. [thwaps Liam] The communication was clear, though. Or I hope it was. [laugh/flail])

But this is Liam's story at least as much as it is Orlando's. He's struggling with his feelings, with a "wrong" attitude toward his body-slave in conflict with what his culture and upbringing says is proper and normal and healthy. This was an opportunity to further that character arc a bit.

I could probably have done this scene from Liam's POV. In fact, that's how I started writing it. But since Liam knows so much more about what's going on, what's happened and who's involved and what he's done so far and what's being done on his behalf and cetera, I really couldn't get through this without showing what he was thinking about at various points, which was all stuff he was brooding on (especially after Johnny called his attention to that e-mail) and which was all stuff the reader knows. It wouldn't be realistic for him to not be thinking about this stuff, especially since he'd planned to tell the kids about it in the car anyway, even before he got Ben's mail. It was too thinky and too repetitive and I couldn't come up with a good way to avoid that, while still doing what I wanted to do with the scene.

[Continued on Next Rock...]

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[info]angiepen
2009-01-08 04:59 am UTC (link)
[...Continued from Previous Rock]

Jamie's POV got around that, though. He gave the kids the basics of the news, then Paula had her little melt-down, preventing him from going into any details which would've bored the readers. Jamie's POV let the reader see how Orlando's absence affects other people besides Liam, their talk later in the living room showed the reader that yes, Liam had gotten Ben's letter and had replied to it. The fact that he sent three e-mails after reading Ben's hints that he has other people doing things too; I'll be showing more of that later. And the thing with Shane and Paula underscores the difference between Liam and "everyone else" of his class, as well as showing how dealing with the realities of a slave society impacts the kids, even if they're of the owner class.

Liam's POV just wasn't working the way I wanted it to, whereas Jamie's POV let me get in even more than I'd originally planned, so.... :)

I hope that makes sense. It's not always easy to verbalize what's going on in my head when I'm pulling a story together. So much is seat-of-the-pants and what feels right, you know? Hopefully this works. And even if you still disagree (which is cool), it was good to have an opportunity to at least try to explain what I was thinking in so many words. [ponder]

Angie

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(Anonymous)
2009-01-08 09:16 am UTC (link)
Another great part -- and I really like that this is from the twins' perspective.

So sad about Paula and her heartbreak over Shane. I can see her being convinced, over time, that Natasha's ideas about attachments to body-slaves are the correct way to go, unless something is done.

For instance, if Liam were to track down Shane, and find him agreeable (I know all slaves are 'agreeable' to whatever the Master wants, but Liam wouldn't be the Master, yet; and I think Liam could tell if Shane was opposed to the idea.) to a reclassification from body-slave to something else -- nanny, butler, personal maid, or even just playmate -- he could gift Paula with Shane for Christmas. Of course, he'd have to find something (?someone?) equally special for Jamie's Christmas.

He would have to be careful about keeping control of ownership decisions until Paula was of a legal age to make them or else Natasha would likely just sell Shane again, but that could be handled with ownership being held in a Trust, that Liam would control, until the twins were of legal age. And if the boarding school doesn't allow students to bring personal slaves, Shane, and Jamie's potential slave, could live/work at Liam's during the school year.

I think the return of a person she loved, who was a slave, would be enough to turn Paula decisively away from the 'status-quo' mind-set, and even, possibly, into a rabid abolitionist.

And I can't wait to find out what new road blocks are going to crop up next in the Orli search. But the HOT rescue-sex when Orli is finally found and remembers who he is is the real pay-off I'm anxious for. I just can't help but think that's going to be awhile coming. Still, it'll be a nice ride to get there.

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[info]angiepen
2009-01-08 12:39 pm UTC (link)
I've thought about the possibility of Liam trying to track down Shane. It'd be hugely problematical, though, even if I set things up to make it possible. Because yes, Shane might not want to be owned by (or even kept in trust for) and eight-year-old girl. And even if that was okay with him, Paula might not (quite possibly would not) particularly want him anymore by the time she's sixteen or eighteen and could actually take custody of him. Shane is thirty, and taking him out of the body-slave track at this point and making him wait for an eight-year-old to get old enough to decide whether she wants him (and it probably wouldn't be as an actual body-slave, but as some other job, as you suggested) would be trashing his career path (such as it is, but it's the best a slave can hope for) and possibly for nothing.

Kids in this verse can take slaves to school with them, but only body-slaves. So Shane couldn't even be with her most of the time. He couldn't live with Natasha (wow, awkward!) so he'd be at Liam's and would only see Paula a handful of times a year. (I'm assuming Liam wouldn't take him along every time he drives up to the city to have lunch or whatever with his kids.) So they'd have hardly any contact with one another until Paula was old enough to take custody, and by that time (at least her entire lifetime away) even with the best intentions in the world, her strong attachment for him would have faded considerably, if not died all together. Which leaves Shane with what? :( Even if she was enough Liam's daughter to take care of him out of a feeling of obligation and responsibility -- wow, that sucks. :/ I think Liam will just listen to her yell about how unfair it is, let her cry on his shoulder some more, and help her get over it.

I think the return of a person she loved, who was a slave, would be enough to turn Paula decisively away from the 'status-quo' mind-set, and even, possibly, into a rabid abolitionist.

See, the thing is, she's eight. She only knew him for a few months. Sure, he's a nice guy, and fun, and kids are always delighted when an adult is willing to hang out and play with them and listen to them. And if Shane had stayed for years and years then yes, she probably would have grown fond of him in a lasting way.

Her feelings of hurt and anger are very real, yes. But they've only lasted this long, I think, because she's been trying to stifle them. If she'd been allowed to cry and mourn and have her feelings of loss validated, she probably would've been over it by now, and Shane would've been a kind of sad memory of someone she was happy with, but it wouldn't be as painful anymore. It's like, if your kid's best friend moves away -- they're sad for a while, maybe cries some, but they eventually get over it. And you probably don't feel an obligation as a parent to track the family down and move there so your kids can be best friends again, or even to take your kid to visit (three states away) their best friend some number of times per year. Even if you did the latter, chances are that within a year or two the kids would have grown apart anyway, would've found other best friends and not been all that interested in seeing each other anymore. It'd be a fun occasion, but not an "OMG it's my Best Friend!!" sort of thing.

It's the derailment of the natural mourning for a lost friendship, and the attempt to make her stifle and deny her feelings which is the problem here, not losing Shane per se.

But the HOT rescue-sex when Orli is finally found and remembers who he is is the real pay-off I'm anxious for.

That I think I can promise. :)

I just can't help but think that's going to be awhile coming.

Probably that too. [grin] Although we're a bit closer than we were before. [humming]

Thanks for commenting!

Angie

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[info]thetammyjo
2009-01-08 02:22 pm UTC (link)
Ah, perhaps if I were reading this as a novel or a complete story I might have remembered the children. In it's serial form though I frankly did not remember them at all.

Thus is the nature of serial story telling.

Thank you for explaining your reasoning.

TammyJo

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[info]angiepen
2009-01-08 02:27 pm UTC (link)
Welcome. :)

And yes, that is a major problem with posting like this. [nod] Three chapters a week is bad enough, even without the big gaps for the holidays and such. It can be tough enough to remember who's who and what's going on from one book to the next, when you're reading paper books that come out a year apart, but having to wait days or longer between chapters can be a real issue, especially when the story is fairly complicated. You know, I hadn't really thought about it in so many words before, but that's probably one of the reasons why so much longer fanfic is just fun/sex/romance, rather than the twisty/plotty sort.

Angie, pondering

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[info]january_snow
2009-01-07 08:34 pm UTC (link)
just caught up.

happy new year and looking forward to hearing what's up next!

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[info]angiepen
2009-01-08 05:01 am UTC (link)
More on Friday. :) Happy New Year back to you!

Angie

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[info]vienna80er
2009-01-07 09:53 pm UTC (link)
*sniffles* Putting it all into words a child can understand and seeing it from it's point of view makes it even more sad. Liam is such a great dad though.

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[info]angiepen
2009-01-08 05:00 am UTC (link)
Thanks, hon. :D He tries hard, and I agree that he's doing a pretty good job. {{}}

Angie

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[info]ireth06
2009-01-07 11:18 pm UTC (link)
I like it when you weave in a chapter like this. Orlando is missed. And not only by his mother and sister, pr Lord Neeson, but also by his kids, his son. Cements Orlando's position in Neeson's household once more. Lovely!

The difference with other 'normal' households is made obvious by Paula and the attitude of her mother. Get over it and get another ... Lovely to know Liam teaches his kids you don't always have to.

Lovely chapter, now let the man check out the e-mails ... *g*
Thanks sweetie!
*hugs*

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[info]angiepen
2009-01-08 05:09 am UTC (link)
The difference with other 'normal' households is made obvious by Paula and the attitude of her mother. Get over it and get another ...

In a "normal" household, that's actually good advice. Liam's the one who's going mushy [cough] and even if he won't admit it to anyone else, he hasn't been able to transmit the proper use-them-and-throw-them-away attitude to his son.

now let the man check out the e-mails

He did, and replied -- in the car, remember? Now it's up to Ben to write back and give some details, like what he wants. [impatient tapping]

Thanks back for commenting! {{}}

Angie

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[info]gypsy_atavari
2009-01-08 01:26 am UTC (link)
Awww that was nice. Seeing how his kids are taking the situation. Love your beautiful touches.

Liam's getting nearer and nearer... but as he got one break, he may get there with Orlando already sold so he'd have to start a hunt all over again. Exciting!!

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[info]angiepen
2009-01-08 05:10 am UTC (link)
but as he got one break, he may get there with Orlando already sold so he'd have to start a hunt all over again.

True. Wouldn't that suck? ;D

Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter!

Angie

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Poor Paula
[info]skeptic7
2009-01-08 03:05 am UTC (link)
It really isn't good for children to lose people. They get attachment disorders, and that could have been avoided if Natasha had any sort of empathy. Shane could have been relegated to a different job so that Paula could see him over the summer.
I hope that Liam gets Orlando back soon. Could Liam buy Shane, or at least check to see if he is well situated? Shane could study to be a gardener or stable hand.

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Re: Poor Paula
[info]angiepen
2009-01-08 05:25 am UTC (link)
The problem here is how to socialize children to see some people as disposable and others as not. Because kids are going to have a hard time comprehending the whole idea of a certain class of people actually being "things" rather than "humans," at least at first. If you keep it up, they'll eventually get it, but that rearrangement of object classes in their heads is likely to be difficult. Paula's just gone through it and it hasn't fully "set" yet in her head, and now here's her daddy telling her that no, that's wrong, and messing it all up for her. It's a pretty fundamental issue her parents disagree on, and that makes it that much more difficult for her to figure out what to think or how to feel about things.

Of course, we all know which attitude we think is right, but in their society, Natasha's attitude is actually the correct one. That clash, and the wreckage it leaves, is fundamental to the story and is illustrated pretty clearly in Paula, and Jamie too for contrast.

Thanks for commenting!

Angie

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Re: Poor Paula
[info]skeptic7
2009-01-08 06:14 am UTC (link)
What I thought was cute was that the children realized how unfair things were. Liam can keep body slaves and ponies around forever and search for them if they go missing, but poor Paula has to "get over it", because her feelings of loss aren't important. Then there is the little realization that if Natasha really loved Paula, loved her more than she loved social approval, Natasha would have have kept Shane. Its hard to realize that there are limits on parental love and the limits are so shallow.
Its even worse if both Natasha and Liam are willing to keep the rest of the slave staff around permanently, Paula could safely befriend the cook or butler without worrying about them disappearing so why not the body slaves?

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Re: Poor Paula
[info]angiepen
2009-01-08 12:50 pm UTC (link)
My experience, to say nothing of my own memory, is that kids are extremely sensitive to what is and isn't fair. [wry smile] Even if they're willing to take advantage when the unfairness is to their benefit, they're equally willing to howl (or at least grump) when it works against them.

if Natasha really loved Paula, loved her more than she loved social approval, Natasha would have have kept Shane.

Maybe. But see my reply to anon @ 1:16am above. Paula only knew Shane, only hung out with him on any kind of a regular basis, for a very few months -- the length of a summer vacation. Yes, she was attached to him, but if she'd been allowed to mourn the loss openly, and not pressured to deny her feelings of loss and sadness and anger, she'd probably have been over it by now. It's like, what if you took your kid to a resort for the summer, and they make a friend and spend the summer hanging out and playing and talking and get really attached. When it's time to go home -- three states away, and the friend's family lives three states in the other direction -- you're going to go home, no matter how much the kids cry. The fact that you don't immediately move to be near your kid's new friend doesn't make you a bad parent. The kids will cry for a bit, and maybe mope around for a while. But they'll get back with their old friends at home, and go to school, and while they might never actually forget the other kid they knew for one summer, they won't be horribly damaged by the fact of never seeing them again either.

In my view, what's bad about this isn't the fact that Natasha sold Shane, but the way she handled Paula's feelings about the loss.

Regular house slaves are (I'm assuming) kept longer than body-slaves. But even there, there's no security. If Indian food suddenly becomes fashionable, many owners would probably sell their cook and buy a new one who can cook Indian. Maybe tall, male butlers are the in thing for a while, then it changes and short female butlers are suddenly all the rage; people who are conscious of following the trends will sell their tall male butler and buy a short female one. It's like trading up for the newest and coolest car or computer or stereo. Body-slaves will get sold more often because there's an actual getting-tired-of-you factor involved in casual sex, but the other slaves aren't really secure either. Liam's household is very stable because he feels responsibile, in a paterfamilias way, for his slaves, but that's not going to be the case everywhere.

But essentially yes, Paula would be a lot safer befriending the cook or one of the maids or a gardener or something.

Angie

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[info]adrian_turtle
2009-01-08 05:51 am UTC (link)
This is really stunning. Most of the story so far has felt like a novel with original characters, to me. This is the first chapter where it really struck me that each character is really, meaningfully, an actor...or some kind of holographic image composed of previous roles he has played. When you wrote the first few chapters, were you planning the connection with Schindler's List? Or did it only occur to you recently to put this creepy concern about getting too attached to a slave ("the way you would with a person" *shudder*) in his mouth?

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[info]angiepen
2009-01-08 01:03 pm UTC (link)
this creepy concern about getting too attached to a slave ("the way you would with a person"

This attitude is pretty much inherent in the verse. Slaves are seen as commodities, essentially interchangeable; individual slaves aren't valued as individuals. One slave with a certain set of characteristics and skills is considered to be identical to another slave with the same set of characteristics and skills.

If you read [info]darkrosetiger's story about Dylan and Joe, you see that Commerce doesn't even keep track of individual slaves. Or rather, I'm assuming they do (I have a hard time imagining them not doing it at all) but rather they don't make it possible for past or potential buyers to track individual slaves, by name or anything else. So when Dylan's family sold Joe out from under him while Dylan was away at school (the thinking being that he couldn't take Joe with him and it was ridiculous to have a body-slave sitting around doing nothing for that time, and they'd buy him a new one when he came home so what's the problem?) Dylan had no way of even finding Joe again, although he tried. Even as an adult, with control of his own money and the ability and strong wish to buy Joe back, there was no way to find him because Commerce doesn't let people say, "I'm looking for a slave named Joe Flanigan," and search records that way. You give them the specs you're looking for and they present you with a selection of slaves who meet those specs. Or you just go down and wander around looking, like getting a dog from a shelter. But this society doesn't value individual slaves, and so there's no way of tracking slaves as individuals.

They're slaves. And yes, there's some correspondance between this and the anti-semitic attitudes of the Nazis, although I hadn't thought about it that way before. Just as the Nazis didn't see Jews as being really people, the Keptverse society at large doesn't see slaves as really people.

But thank you so much for commenting. :) I'm glad you've been enjoying the story, and that it feels like an original novel to you. [beam] That's one of the reasons I love AUs. :D

Angie

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[info]mistry89
2009-01-08 06:03 am UTC (link)
Interesting to see the different attitudes in the households - not unexpected, given that we (I mean, they) have a considerable amount of self-determination (at least at Lord Level), so individual quirks and eccentricities are likely to creep in (societal pressure or not), as demonstrated by Liam. I haven't enough real background in the 'verse to know how long it has been This Way, but even the most rock-solid of societies is bound to go through upheavals from time to time, some that lead back to the status quo and others that bring real change, however minor (am thinking of Commerce here). My parents split up when I was 5 or so, but even before that I can remember the behaviours "allowed" at various relatives/friends houses and those that were allowed at home - children seem to cope well because they are able to adapt (which isn't the same thing as it being easy or that it won't result in long-term changes/problems), so the variance between the way Natasha and Liam conduct their lives (and their attitudes to body-slaves in particular) seems valid.
Sorry - that was off the point, but I really enjoyed this chapter for the insight into "normal" Lord attitudes being shown through the children, rather than directly from you (and any immediate action on Liam's part, other than replying to Ben, would seem too hurried and out of the time-flow thing that the story holds (does that make sense?).
Thank you!

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[info]angiepen
2009-01-08 01:13 pm UTC (link)
[info]poisontaster has been careful to keep from anchoring the verse to any given date or set of dates. The return of slavery happened some number of generations ago (keeping in mind that the verse itself is set some unspecified amount of time in the future) during a period of economic crisis. I've been imagining the Great Depression, but that's just me and isn't in any way canon.

But yes, there are always going to be deviations from the norm. [nod] The more rigidly a society tries to impose conformity, the more strongly nonconformism are going to erupt here and there. So there are certain social norms which I've gotten from the canon stories, and others which I'm assuming because they seem to fit and make sense to me, but there are always going to be people and groups who think and act differently.

And yes also about kids being able to adapt behavior. [nodnod] My parents divorced too, and my mom remarried, and we visited in a number of different kinds of households, with different levels of formality in each. Kids can adapt pretty easily if they're made clearly aware of what's required in each environment. Of course, stronger-willed kids are going to push it in places [cough] but that's just kids being kids. :)

And no, that wasn't off the point at all. :D It was pretty closely following the themes of this chapter, and some recurring themes throughout the story (and "Turf Battles") so I don't at all mind talking about it.

One reason I used the kids in this chapter was that I think it's interesting to see Natasha's and Liam's attitudes reflected in their children. I think Liam's attitudes toward slaves -- or at least toward body-slaves -- show more clearly in how Jamie thinks of them, and in how Liam deals with Jamie's feelings about Orlando's theft, than they do in how Liam behaves himself or how he treats the same subject when he's talking to other people. Through Jamie, we can see that yes, Orlando is very much valued for himself; there's no one else Jamie could've gotten that attitude from. Certainly not his mother. Liam's still all snarling about personal insult and disrespect to others (whether they believe him or not) but we see through Jamie that the emotional aspect of losing Orlando is also a strong factor for him.

I also agree about the pacing. Having Liam get Ben's e-mail, reply to him, get a reply back and go through their negotiation all at once would feel rushed. It's killing Liam to have to wait [grin] but replying and then waiting is what's realistic.

Thanks back for commenting!

Angie

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A lost boy
[info]argentine65
2009-01-08 11:11 am UTC (link)
This chapter is so good. Since it is written from Jamie's POV it gaves us a more close idea of how people is. I love Liam's patience with his daughter and how much Jamie (and his father) misses Orlando. But then there is hope because Ben could contact Liam. Thank you for sharing. Martha

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Re: A lost boy
[info]angiepen
2009-01-08 01:14 pm UTC (link)
I'm glad you like Liam's father persona :) And yes, we definitely have some hope now. Thanks for commenting!

Angie

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[info]elfladyjeanne
2009-01-08 08:30 pm UTC (link)
I feel so sorry for Jamie and Paula both. You can't expect kids not to get attached to someone in their life, especially those two because of the fact that they live such split lives, shared between their father and mother.

I'm so anxious to hear what Ben wants. I'm with Jamie, whatever it is Liam should do it. (Hopefully he just wants an owner to care for him like Liam does Orlando. Two body slaves wouldn't be a bad thing, especially ones as beautiful as Orlando and Ben. Just like two matched bookends. hee.)

More soon please.

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[info]angiepen
2009-01-09 07:07 am UTC (link)
Hopefully Ben will want something Liam's able to give him. [nodnod] More in a bit. Thanks!

Angie

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[info]amygirl
2009-01-09 01:43 am UTC (link)
Oh this was just...perfect. It's really interesting seeing this world that they live in through the children's eyes. It's nice to see that Paula might not turn out exactly like her mother...even if maybe she'll pretend or even really think that she has to be that way. (that probably doesn't make sense...sorry.)

Still loving this fic so much!

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[info]angiepen
2009-01-09 07:08 am UTC (link)
Paula's an interesting character. I'm pretty sure I know how Jamie's going to turn out, but there are a lot more variables with Paula. One more item for my futurefic list.... ;D Thanks!

Angie

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[info]dragonmad
2009-01-09 09:13 am UTC (link)
I cannot tell you how much I love this story!!!

Seeing an update brings a reaction best shown via this icon. ;P

<3 you!!!!!

(And poor Orli!!!! Hurry Liam!!!!!!!!!!!!)

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[info]angiepen
2009-01-09 09:16 am UTC (link)
Thanks, hon! I'm glad you're still enjoying. :D

And Liam's hurrying!!! LOL! All he can do right now is wait until Ben e-mails him back. [fret]

Angie

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